North Korea

[SilvrSRT10]

By pass all the electronics and go back to work. Emp is more bs than we know. Yes some electric stuff can fry .I wear a tinfoil helmet.China is dependent on us as we on them. Nike Korea with just a little one to get their attention.

True it's basically unexplored. Some say it will stop your car so that it cannot be restarted without new parts to it might stall but you'd be able to restart it and keep going. No one really knows. It may also depend on how big a nuclear blast there is in space and how large a EMP blast it causes on the continent.

There have been solar flares that have shut down parts of the electric grid as well a nuclear test that have caused problems (Starfish Prime, Hawaii). There was also a Soviet test 184 that was with a smaller explosion but caused more damage than the Starfish Prime. Something to do with the Earths magnetic field. So I see it as a real possibility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_history

If you have info to the contrary I'd like to see it.

 

[Arckadian]

I know that when I was in Korea in the Army... I was told when I got off the plane that if the North attacked any of the bases in the south we would have about 30 seconds to live. That is not enough time to mount a counter attack. The problem with a nuke missle lauch is it still takes time to track, target and shoot down an incoming missile. There are a lot of things that can happen between the time of lauch and the time of impact. Need to keep that in mind.

 

[hotrodpc]

I know that when I was in Korea in the Army... I was told when I got off the plane that if the North attacked any of the bases in the south we would have about 30 seconds to live. That is not enough time to mount a counter attack. The problem with a nuke missle lauch is it still takes time to track, target and shoot down an incoming missile. There are a lot of things that can happen between the time of lauch and the time of impact. Need to keep that in mind.

I'll agree with that. If they attacked S. Korea. I more referring to a Nuke missle coming for US soil.

 

[ViperJeff]

They only have to get lucky .... once. We need to get it right 100% of the time

 

[hotrodpc]

They only have to get lucky .... once. We need to get it right 100% of the time

That's right. They send 20, and we only get 19 in route, 1 will hit it's target and might be enough.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

I'll agree with that. If they attacked S. Korea. I more referring to a Nuke missile coming for US soil.

From what I have read, They don't have the ICBM capability. Why I don't know. Although they do have satellite launch capability. You wouldn't think the two would be that far apart. I'm not a rocket scientist so I don't know. They are working on nuclear capability. They have done a number of underground tests already.

It could just be a matter of time before they get their act together. I think the EMP scenario is the most cost effective and hits the U.S. the hardest. Why take out a few targets with multiple strikes when you can shut down the nation with one good EMP blast.

Just found this so maybe they can hit Hawaii or the West coast.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/july..._materials_to_a_new_missile_base_2507114.html

 

[ViperJeff]

The US has been designing EMP protection into all kinds of stuff for decades. Even the 1959 Model of an F-106 I worked on had some EMP protection because there primary duty was to intercept Russian Bears...

Although I think an EMP burst would be bad, I don't think it will be as bad as portrayed in the B movies one sees on the SyFy Channel

 

[SilvrSRT10]

The US has been designing EMP protection into all kinds of stuff for decades. Even the 1959 Model of an F-106 I worked on had some EMP protection because there primary duty was to intercept Russian Bears...

Although I think an EMP burst would be bad, I don't think it will be as bad as portrayed in the B movies one sees on the SyFy Channel

Haven't seen any of those but I have read a couple books (Fiction) on EMP's. I hope you're right. I hope nothing ever comes of it. What I would be concerned with is the electrical grid. As far as I know there isn't any protection for any of it. And a lot of it is computer controlled which could be fried by an EMP. It could possibly damage the transformers which I've read aren't made here in the states anymore.

Anyhow, just stuff I've read. That EMP's are possible. What affect they will have remains to be seen. If I was the N. Korean leader and wanted the most bang for the buck out of my nuke then I would try the EMP approach first. I'm not saying everyone put on your tin foil hats, just that this is a thought that could be explored.

 

[ViperJeff]

I just think that the thought that very little has been done to protect resources to a know possibility... is just hard to believe.

 

[ninja man]

i got my sword, nunchuku's, and my throwing stars...... im ready for whatever

 

[RangerDanger]

i got my sword, nunchuku's, and my throwing stars...... im ready for whatever

No smoke bombs? Some kind of ninja you are...

 

[SWSS]

Ouch... Maybe they are so malnourished that they dont see him coming!

SWSS from somewhere....

 

[kwo51]

Most every thing is controlled by computers,and this is the achilles heal of our nation. Luckily we have lots of redundancy. Luckily we have lots of redundancy.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

Most every thing is controlled by computers,and this is the achilles heal of our nation. Luckily we have lots of redundancy. Luckily we have lots of redundancy.

I know I'm beating a dead horse but still playing the "what if" game, if the EMP is strong enough to wipe out the primary, why wouldn't it take the secondary too? It would require an EMP proof room or Faraday cage to protect them.

It may not be the actual EMP that fries the "whatever" but the power surge going through the lines that gets it.

Again, this may never happen or ever amount to anything. But due to some books I've read, I find the subject interesting.

 

[SWSS]

I know I'm beating a dead horse but still playing the "what if" game, if the EMP is strong enough to wipe out the primary, why wouldn't it take the secondary too? It would require an EMP proof room or Faraday cage to protect them.

It may not be the actual EMP that fries the "whatever" but the power surge going through the lines that gets it.

Again, this may never happen or ever amount to anything. But due to some books I've read, I find the subject interesting.

Yup the surge or a "dropkick" will do it. Been to too many military installations in dry arid locations and grounding sucks...was at a site that also houses an alphabet soup agency and our equipment had better grounding than the utility board we were powered off of! their ground sucked when we took our equipment off of the grid!

 

[kwo51]

Most grids have major faults every day and controlling them is just part of the system protection. If a back up system is not in use it is protected from trips or faults. We have cut our own throats by down sizing and and relying on engineering instead of tradesmen.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

What to expect from an erratic N. Korea.

Well, I'm not the only one thinking this is a possibility. Long shot??.....I certainly hope so.

What to expect from an erratic North Korea | Fox News

"--It appears that North Korea is expanding a new missile launch site at Musudan-ri, which will be much bigger than the missile test site at Tongchang-ri, where the Unha-3 rocket was launched in December, 2012.

And if this isn’t bad enough, additional OSINT suggests that a plan for a high altitude nuclear burst over the Pacific is on the books.

Further, Dr. Vincent Pry from the U.S. Nuclear Strategy Forum, has recently made a convincing case that North Korea possesses an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) nuclear warhead which would have the ability to take out a national power grid and destroy critical infrastructures throughout the U.S."

 

[kwo51]

Florida can just drop off the grid with a couple of switches. When someone has a loaded gun pointed at your head ,you kill him or die. Piss or get off the pot.

 

[SWSS]

she said, "you like apples?",
"of course I do"
then the EMP burst, and she repied, " How you like them F'ing Apples?"
I said I didn't, then I shot her through her daggum eye....:Bye:

 

[ninja man]

No smoke bombs? Some kind of ninja you are...

its ok, i can make some good stuff if you want. but i would rather shoot you with my blowgun