Obama's 23 Executive Orders

SilvrSRT10

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Has he trampled the Constitution in any of these?

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It’s important to note that not each one is actually an executive order or presidential memorandum.

The Office of the Press Secretary sent out the following list of all 23 executive actions.

Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
 

KKing

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Some are so vague you could drive a gun-grabbing truck through. Are you being treated for depression? Turn your weapon in, you're a high risk.

Doctor: Do you own guns
Me: Yes
Doctor: I have to turn that in and your health insurance will probably go up
OR
Doctor: Do you own guns?
Me: No
Doctor: If you lie it's possible you'll be prosecuted for insurance fraud.

Just saying, I don't trust any of his shit
 

SilvrSRT10

Super Moderator
Some are so vague you could drive a gun-grabbing truck through. Are you being treated for depression? Turn your weapon in, you're a high risk.

Doctor: Do you own guns
Me: Yes
Doctor: I have to turn that in and your health insurance will probably go up
OR
Doctor: Do you own guns?
Me: No
Doctor: If you lie it's possible you'll be prosecuted for insurance fraud.

Just saying, I don't trust any of his shit
Yeah, I noticed #16 too. I've never had a doc ask me about guns. The one I go to is a real country boy. He'd probably think I was crazy if I didn't have a gun. He'd write me a prescription to go get one.
 

KKing

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There's apparently some confusion about if these were actually signed as executive orders today, or if he was simply saying these are the ones he wouldn't care to sign off on.
I work in healthcare. That being said, I can see #16 being a big problem as I mentioned above. Now mental health professionals that truly fear their patient may go on a killing spree, I'm unsure right now if I'm okay with them reporting that or not (right now it's covered under doctor-patient confidentiality). It may sound cold of me to be unsure on it but the problem is you will have liberal Psychologists/Psychiatrists reporting every single gun owner that they see in the office, violent or not since it would be left up to their individual opinion
 

SilvrSRT10

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I understand your concern. If a healthcare professional has an unnatural fear of guns and they find out you have one, they could report you as a threat. To them, they see you as a gun owner as a threat.

When I was buying my last gun at the pawn shop, there was an elderly woman in there paying some kind of bill. As we were discussing the weapon, she was making all kinds of faces and shaking her head. She never said anything (probably scared I'd shoot her) but you could read her disapproval.

Here is the article I got the 23 EO's from. Apparently they are currently "Actions". Not full blown EO's yet.

READ: Full List of 23 Executive Actions in Gun Violence Reduction Measures | Fox News Insider
 

hotrodpc

Super Moderator
We'll have to wait to see what all this shit means. Other than the healthcare and insurance bullshit, I don't really see anything that will hurt. Looks to me he just slung some shit on the wall to make it look like he's doing something.

#12, I think I might like. Is he possibly saying to train school officials to carry? Probably not likely, but it would be cool IMO. I'd feel safer with my kid at a school with tactically trained school staff. ONLY THOSE who qualify of course. I'm a firm believer, in a non criminal, sane person, some people just shouldn't carry. My mother being one of them. She'd end up getting a gun taken away from here. She has a gun phobia and trembles just holding one.
 

SilvrSRT10

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#12, I think I might like. Is he possibly saying to train school officials to carry? Probably not likely, but it would be cool IMO. I'd feel safer with my kid at a school with tactically trained school staff. ONLY THOSE who qualify of course.

I think #12 is training on how to duck for cover.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

Now #18 says provide incentives for schools to hire resource officers. Hopefully with something more than a spitball gun.
 

KKing

Full Access Member
I don't THINK I have a problem with all the background checks, like most of us I have nothing to hide. In fact, I had more background checks to get into my career. What I'm afraid of is the vagueness of most of the list
 

SilvrSRT10

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Arckadian

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The way it looked to me and many of my buddies at work (former Military) is that if you served in the military and have a mental stress issue from something you had to due while you served.... If a medical professional thinks that you could be dangerous, they need to report it to the government and then you will have your guns taken from you.

These Actions/EO's target a lot more than just former military of course but the point is this. If you get an over zealous head doc and he has an unreasonalbe fear about guns then he can turn you in if he thinks you could be dangerous. The actions/EO's are very vague and leave a lot of room for questionalbe actions.
 

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