Measure to ban kids under 12 from gun shows introduced. NY State

[priell3]

Finally, a way to stop gun violence.

A New York lawmaker wants to prohibit minors under age 12 from being able to visit a gun show anywhere in the state in an effort to reduce gun violence.

The bill, introduced by state Assemblywoman Linda B. Rosenthal, a Democrat who represents the Hell’s Kitchen area of Manhattan, would bar entry to pre-teen youth to these shows with no provision allowed for those with a supervising adult.

“As the gun industry prepares a public campaign to broaden the appeal of guns, it is important that we establish reasonable age limits for admission to gun shows by children,” reads a memo Rosenthal wrote for her legislation.

“Within New York State and other areas of jurisdiction, we have myriad regulations that seek to protect minors from exposure to certain potentially dangerous situations and influences,” the memo continued. “For example, a minor is restricted from watching films or playing certain video games that portray deadly weaponry and gunplay. Currently, however, minors of any age may gain unfettered access to a gun show.”

Rosenthal thinks that by curbing a young person’s interactions with firearms, gun violence reform can be achieved.

“As our State continues to look for solutions to violence involving guns, we must begin by limiting the exposure of young children to these weapons and their capabilities,” wrote Rosenthal.

Her bill, A967, would add a simple 19-word sentence to New York state laws that would effectively place gun shows off limits to those under 12 years of age. It is a carbon copy of a 2013 measure from the lawmaker that failed to gain traction. Current federal law prohibits persons under the age of 18 from purchasing a firearm already.

While the Assemblywoman’s office declined comment to Guns.com about how the legislation would affect her own district, there seems to be few gun shows in Manhattan to regulate.

In researching four different gun show listing sites to include Gunshow Monster, American Gun Shows, Gunshows USA, and Gunshow Trader, of the more than 60 shows listed in New York state so far for 2015, few if any are in Manhattan. In fact, the closest shows listed to Rosenthal’s district are in Long Island, some 50 miles away, leading to the conclusion that by far the biggest impact for her bill would be in other parts of the Empire State.

However the lawmaker, a member of State Legislators Against Illegal Guns, is no stranger to the introduction of gun control bills that aim to tackle problems in their infancy. In 2013, she proposed a bill to make it a felony to manufacture, sell or use firearms and ammunition magazines made with digital 3-D printers.

Rosenthal’s legislation currently has five co-sponsors and has been referred to the Assembly Committee for Economic Development.

Measure to ban kids under 12 from gun shows introduced

 

[SilvrSRT10]

:insane::facepalm::thumbsdown::snoopfacepalm:

 

[ViperJeff]

Why don't we just ship these people to the moon

 

[Jo6pak]

State Legislators Against Illegal Guns

Hey, I'm against illegal guns too. I think that all guns should be legal to own....if you are a law-abiding citizens.

And what is an illegal gun? Is that like an Illegal Alien,, err,, Illegal Immigrant,, err,, Undocumented Immigrant?
Wouldn't they be "undocumented Firearms" then??

We all want to reduce gun violence.
These people have their hearts in the right place, they just have their heads up their asses

 

[oppo]

I don't even think their hearts are in the right places but their heads are definitely stuck up their asses.

Let's think about this for a moment. Don't let kids go with dad to see guns "used" responsibly. Instead, let them only see all the BS all over the TV, much of which glorifies thugs and violence.

 

[kwo51]

Lets ban women from holding office 1 week a month.

 

[Sgt. Rock]

Let's ban BB guns too..for they will shoot your eye out.

 

[kwo51]

Who votes for these people???????? There really can't be this much ignorance here.

 

[Concealed 27]

I'm all about guns being documented but you can't stop anyone from looking at guns. The internet has thousands of websites and kids nowadays kids are using the web efficiently at a young age. I new nothing about the net till the early 90s and then it was nothing like today's web. You can spend all day looking at guns and ammo but you can't stop kids from looking at it....... parental supervision is no longer happening.... my nephew has a iPad and he's 10. He was showing me guns cause he wants a 22lr........
Concealed 27

 

[kwo51]

I don't think guns need any paper work to go with them. We don't have a gun problem we have a morals problem.

 

[oppo]

Am I gonna need to register my mouth and get a permit to speak?

None of my other rights require a permit or registration.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

All I want is to keep weapons (ie. guns, knives, hammers, crow bars, baseball bats etc.) out of criminal and mentally unstable hands. That's it. Do a criminal and mental illness background check. Should there be a paper trail so that a gun can be traced back to it's owner? I can see +'s and -'s to both scenarios.

 

[oppo]

The +'s are all in theory. The -'s exist in the real world. Ask those in England, Australia, Germany and a long list of other countries how that paper trail worked out for them.

 

[kwo51]

Paper trail right to your front door.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

The +'s are all in theory. The -'s exist in the real world. Ask those in England, Australia, Germany and a long list of other countries how that paper trail worked out for them.

Paper trail right to your front door.

I understand. I'm not talking about gun registration. If my local government decides to come out with gun registration, they'll be sorely disappointed in my participation. But whenever you buy a gun and fill out the form, you're creating a paper trail. That's the only reason for the FFL. He makes sure the forms are properly filled out and the serial number of your gun is documented. Yeah, he runs the NICS check also to make sure you don't have a criminal record. He is required to keep those forms forever so that if need be the authorities can rifle through them to find the original purchaser. As far as I know, there isn't a computer database that they can go to.

 

[Arckadian]

This is just one of the many crazy measures that are trying to get into place and deprive the younger generation from know what liberty and freedom are.

 

[oppo]

I understand. I'm not talking about gun registration. If my local government decides to come out with gun registration, they'll be sorely disappointed in my participation. But whenever you buy a gun and fill out the form, you're creating a paper trail. That's the only reason for the FFL. He makes sure the forms are properly filled out and the serial number of your gun is documented. Yeah, he runs the NICS check also to make sure you don't have a criminal record. He is required to keep those forms forever so that if need be the authorities can rifle through them to find the original purchaser. As far as I know, there isn't a computer database that they can go to.

By law, they are only required to keep those forms for 7 years. In practice, not much would surprise me.

 

[kwo51]

If they close or go out of business the forms go to ATF. Records not allowed to be kept on micro film or computer. Not opposed to a back ground check just but it does seem kind of stupid to do it to a CCW person.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

By law, they are only required to keep those forms for 7 years. In practice, not much would surprise me.

Wiki isn't gospel....... talking about the 4473 form.

These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed by the government to private parties or other government officials except in accordance with the Privacy Act. Individual dealers possessing a copy of the form are not subject to the Privacy Act's restrictions on disclosure. Dealers are required to maintain completed forms for 20 years in the case of completed sales, and for 5 years where the sale was disapproved as a result of the NICS check.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473

 

[kwo51]

Need a ware house just for paper work.